After Jiazu War Talk

also this dead horse is not being beaten. Its been hung, drawn and quartered, proccessed with a meat grinder and fed to the pigs, which shit it out. Then the shit is used to fertalise and in a big cirlce is used to feed the horses. Which will then die and the proccess repeats.

Come on guys carry on like this and i'll be waiting for you to settle it with handbags at dawn -.-

You are not right Spirit, I won mixes against you too you cunt Oh and we can't let this topic die, it's the only topic alive in this forum

lol.
This is getting more and more hilarious
*thumbs up*
We need Lanza. His threads were even better

*Pan*[3xA] wrote:Yea man watched anchor man again. "i've heard their periods attract bears, they can smell the menstruation!"

"Hey! Where'd you get those clothes? At the toilet store?"

this topics use has become meh. lock it already!

Ofcourse you won mixes Krantz, Mike Tyson champion havnt won evry match aswell.

the best team would be me, spirit and pilgrim
know why? cuz we are in love.


anyway
krantz, yes 1on1 is good at showing off your individual skills , however it will NEVER show your skills in a war.
yes 3xa regroup a lot, PaA does that as well at least when me and cleptomain play together.
using tactics in a map to win a war isnt lesser.
I mean ever seen counterstriker / call of duty? do you really think rushing into the enemy like headlessly will gain you the VICOTRY <3
"i know"

Tactics were developed to players that like using their brain in a war.
dominating hudson isnt that hard is it? put one spawn camper like yourself krantz near the battlehammer and sigurd axe and you´ve made sure at least one player will rack up a lot of frags..
Tactics have always been part of rune, and the person who said it isnt is a imbecile.

Routers are a form of tactics, you run certain routers to ensure your maximum kill frag ratio.
you cant sit there and honestly say that if you use tactics that the person using them is lesser skilled.

you cant sit and say that a defensive player is less skilled because he uses defensive moves, I use them and I know im not lesser skilled then you.

I change my style according to the players I play vs, like you "krantz" i would watch out for your back hit, and perhaps throw kill you since you are quite easy to throw kill. specially when you do your backhit.


you might say , you´ve beaten me in wars, sure so what?
that doesnt mean your better then me ?
at this given moment NOONE! is better then anyone in rune, atleast my opinion on the players right now is that we got a few players that can win public games with ease, like mystic. but who cares about the public games really? who here plays serious in a public game?


the fact is in rune.
you cant say a person is lesser skilled by saying you defensive you use lame tactics to win.
so fucking what a skilled player can OVER COME tactics that he or she thinks are lame, A SKILLED PERSON can overcome defensive players.

so if you cant you must not be as skilled as you think.

What's the point of locking this thread?

Gorm wrote:

1) anyway
krantz, yes 1on1 is good at showing off your individual skills , however it will NEVER show your skills in a war.
yes 3xa regroup a lot, PaA does that as well at least when me and cleptomain play together.
using tactics in a map to win a war isnt lesser.
I mean ever seen counterstriker / call of duty? do you really think rushing into the enemy like headlessly will gain you the VICOTRY <3
"i know"

2) Tactics were developed to players that like using their brain in a war.
dominating hudson isnt that hard is it? put one spawn camper like yourself krantz near the battlehammer and sigurd axe and you´ve made sure at least one player will rack up a lot of frags..
Tactics have always been part of rune, and the person who said it isnt is a imbecile.

Routers are a form of tactics, you run certain routers to ensure your maximum kill frag ratio.
you cant sit there and honestly say that if you use tactics that the person using them is lesser skilled.

3) you cant sit and say that a defensive player is less skilled because he uses defensive moves, I use them and I know im not lesser skilled then you.

I change my style according to the players I play vs, like you "krantz" i would watch out for your back hit, and perhaps throw kill you since you are quite easy to throw kill. specially when you do your backhit.


you might say , you´ve beaten me in wars, sure so what?
that doesnt mean your better then me ?
at this given moment NOONE! is better then anyone in rune, atleast my opinion on the players right now is that we got a few players that can win public games with ease, like mystic. but who cares about the public games really? who here plays serious in a public game?


4)the fact is in rune.
you cant say a person is lesser skilled by saying you defensive you use lame tactics to win.
so fucking what a skilled player can OVER COME tactics that he or she thinks are lame, A SKILLED PERSON can overcome defensive players.

so if you cant you must not be as skilled as you think.

1= Using tactics to win a war is less skilled. There's no going around that, why would you use tactics if you could win without them? Like you said it's only "using your brain" but your brain has nothing to do with this game, and your playstyle requires you to do these tactics in order to win, you use common knowledge of any game to win, but your knowledge on Rune isn't really that big. If you used your knowledge of this exact game, Rune, you would know how to aim proper and how to time every hit properly. What you think you are skilled at has not much to do with this game tbh. Playing tactical isn't an implemented part of the game, however aiming and timing and knowledge of distance is. There's some key mechanics in rune, the combat system, each hit starts one place, and ends another. You can figure out the speed of the hit, and when you've done that, you can make your sword follow what you are aiming at, simply by using your new found knowledge of the game.

Secondly, yes I've played both call of duty and counterstrike in clans, and if you don't know that rushing is a crucial skill in counter strike, then you shouldn't bring it up. Rushing does indeed provide a win if you know how to do it, I get what you mean, and again it shows your perspective of any game. Of course a rushing team won't win if the opposing team camps the rush area, but that's not how to play counter strike. It's so easy to see that you consider camping a crucial part of a game, like in this example, you choose to say that rushing won't make you win, but it will, UNLESS you are camping like a motherfucker. And talk to everyone pro in CounterStrike, camping like that isn't considered skilled there either.

2= Dominating hudson is not that hard if you do it your way, no. My way? Then it's not that easy really..
Now you brought up spawnfragging, do you consider that not skilled? Here's what you need to have when spawnfragging: Knowledge of each spawn in each map, abillity to hear where a player spawns based on a 2 second sound, map knowledge and prediction of where your new spawned opponent will go, reaction speed, knowledge of where your teammates are, and who's closest to the new spawned opponent. These are just some examples of what you need. Now let's take your tactical playing into view, hiding at stairs at 1'floor at hudson. You need to be able to look who's coming up the stairs, who spawns at bs, and to watch axe behind you. How does this take any skill in rune? What mechanics of the game are you using when choosing this playstyle? You don't even have to aim, neither time anything. The dude is running to you, and most of the time has no idea you are there, or you just charge him when he doesn't expect it. You choose the easy way of playing, it's a fact, now don't be a pusy, and atleast be man enough to admit it.

3=Actually that's just what I can do. Playing defensive doesnt' require much, take counter strike or call of duty as you brought up yourself, in those games it's not possible to just press s and survive, neither is it possible to just stand still and do safe hits and survive. Now Rune is a melee game, but the main aspect is the same, you should have a good balance between defensive and aggressive playstyles, but you don't. Because defensive playing will save your ass almost everytime and provide you with significantly more advantages than an aggressive style would provide you. What mechanics of the game do you use when playing defensive? Do you have to aim? - Not really.. Do you have to time your hits? Kinda, but I don't see timing as waiting for the opponents charging attack to end, and therefor cause him to not be able to do hits in some time, and in that time you will kill him. That's just waiting to be honest. You have to have some kind of knowledge in this game to play defensive, but you don't really use this knowledge, you see him hitting, you press s, you see his hit ends, and you attack. Now how is that equally skilled to using your aiming, timing and knowledge of distance to attack? It's not. Defensive playing is less skilled, you do not need to be as good as every aspect of this game as you'd have to as an aggressive player. Again, it's a fact. Admit that you'd jump the fence in any case to win, it's all I'm asking..

4= Again, that's actually what I can say, and what I've just proven.
Yes a player can adapt to the situation and overcome a defensive player, but do you know what that means at all? It would mean that I went down to your level, that this game forces every played to be a defwhore who wields an axe and backsteps, cause that's the easiest way to win, and doesn't really require anything. That would be adapting to the situation to survive and in this order to win. That's not what I do though. Of course I can beat a defensive player, it's not that hard to be honest, you just need to get in distance and work around him and do quick hits, cause most defensive players aren't really that good to be honest.

In the end I'd say I'm more skilled than you if you choose to use every advantage to win, and I still beat you or play equally to your score. Since what I use is the real mechanics of the game, the implemented stuff, the combat system, and the abillity to move/dodge around. Having a nice aim means one thing, you have complete knowledge of the combat system and each hit, and you therefor perfect each hit to aim as you please, using this aspect of the game to it's fullest. Being aggressive requires you to be mobile and fast, to move around and to know how long each dodge is, and to acually use is. That means to use this aspect of the game to the fullest. one also knows how long each hit is, and how long each hit will last, you don't have to wait in order to see when it stops, when one knows this, that's knowing the distance of the game, another aspect you'd use.

Now you may know some of these aspects or maybe all of them, but you sure as hell don't use them to the fullest.. You use your common knowledge of how to win any game the easiest way, you are using "your brain". That makes you an overall good player in every game, but does it make you specialized in Rune? Does it make you specificly skilled in Rune? No. Can you make your hammer aim all the way in a jumpspin? Can you dodge at the right time making you use every 0.1 second you can? I doubt it. You may win against a player that uses these aspects, but imo that only shows how bad you want to win, and not how bad you want to be the most skilled player.

Again this is just my point of view and I see "the most skilled player" as one who knows each aspect of the game and uses it to the fullest. Now I'm not saying I do that perfectly or that I'm the best, I was only speaking in general.

Are you fucking kidding me? How can you even waste your time writing these books when you know most of us wont bother and read this shit.

*Gamora*[3xA] wrote:Are you fucking kidding me? How can you even waste your time writing these books when you know most of us wont bother and read this shit.

Gorm made me :l

I never thought I would ever read again so much crap as you just posted in that way too long post Krantz. That's just so hilarious, it's awesome.
Spawnfragging requires some skill, and playing with tactics is no skill. Yeah Learning about the Spawnpoints to able to pull of your skilled Spawnfragging would atleast need some sort of tactic. The way, everyone of us plays is more or less to some basic tactics.
Thinking baout what moves you do, what eapon you use, etc is in some weird way a tactic.
And it's actually funny that you try to tell someone like Gorm how this game works, he plays at least 2 times as long as you do, and so do Spirit or I.
I suggest you stop this, you're just making more and more a fool out of yourself.

Ven wrote:I never thought I would ever read again so much crap as you just posted in that way too long post Krantz. That's just so hilarious, it's awesome.
Spawnfragging requires some skill, and playing with tactics is no skill. Yeah Learning about the Spawnpoints to able to pull of your skilled Spawnfragging would atleast need some sort of tactic. The way, everyone of us plays is more or less to some basic tactics.
Thinking baout what moves you do, what eapon you use, etc is in some weird way a tactic.
And it's actually funny that you try to tell someone like Gorm how this game works, he plays at least 2 times as long as you do, and so do Spirit or I.
I suggest you stop this, you're just making more and more a fool out of yourself.

Well I said lame tactics. Like hideandseek, running routes and spawnfragging is tactical playing in a way, but since you don't really plan what to do when you spawnfrag it's not that tactical.. I know what you mean, and I agree in some way it's tactical, but it's very little considered to many other tactics. You misunderstood me I guess , or you just didn't read what I wrote. I wrote that this was my view on the game, in an arguement or discussion you bring both views, I brought mine. I never said I know the game better than Gorm does, neither that I know the game better than Spirit or you do. I'm not saying you know more than me because you've played longer either, just because you've played a game 10 years, doesn't mean that someone can't learn what you've learned in less time. Many have done so, you can tell me if I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. Many new players are already equally good to me and you, can make the same rows and scores. I'm simply pointing out that I play based on above mentioned vision, and not the regularly "I just want to win, by any means"

If you knew that this was just a thing me and Spirit have, something we always discuss, then you wouldn't have taken it as much to heart.. Mostly we are just messing with each other, but there's still some points that's serious. You couldn't have known. But I'm indeed sorry, how can I be a proper gentleman again?

What you learn in 10 years is defenitly a diffrence then a starter its called experience and how to act in situations like 1vs3 or 3on3 situations, always go for the weak opponent with for example an handaxe in a 1(you) vs 3 enemies or do the right actions on your teammate so you are predictable for your teammates and unpredictable from your enemies, those things you cant learn really fast, that comes with time. The first 1 or 2 months I've played Rune I had a rough time, after those months I did very good, we had a Zaphirs vs. HHFO 5on5 clanwar, and it was my first official war - after that war HHFO asked me to join their crew because I beated them up and down so badly, so Im pointing to the thing you said that someone with less experience like I had there can end up with a good score, but without the experience I have now I wasnt a stabile player, I had my periods, the other time I did really good, the other game I lost badly against some Barbarians, I didnt gave up and kept fighting - this gave me experience and made me a more stabile player.
So for you Krantz, you are a inexperienced fighter but has his times he can own a public game, but when it comes to serious clan wars you are not stabile or war-experience enough to end up good vs clanwar styles (and no not public styles!) a clanwar is overall more defensive, more thinking.
Nothing personal Krantz, you know it but your tough attitude would be cool if you actually would own and make all your theories come true.
You played too much 1on1's versus Lanza as I remember you said Krantz, he has aggresive style because his camera aims automaticly.

oh come on krantz could you be a little more narrow minded?
of course it requires skill to be defensive, of course it requires aim of course it requires timing..

Lets get this straight, YOU think that the only way to play in this game the TRUE way to play is Agressive right?
okay good.

but thats not true? you cant sit and say the only way to play a game is the way YOU deem the correct way, you cant say that the engine in this game wasn't build for defensive play since lets be honest you arn't a coder.
You cant sit here and say that human head modified this engine so it would only be of use to agressive players? that would create some unbalanced shit of a game. NO this game has been build so everyone either defensive or agressive players or even a mix between the two have a chance to win.

SO fucking what if people move back when you attack, then dont rush into them. be smart move around them like you said.
IF you didnt have your head so far up the agressive style that you claim to use, then you would see that its not a matter of what style you use, its how you use it.

we got a lot of different players in rune we all got different style, we all got different opinions.
YOU claim that the only way to play rune to the fullest or truest way is by being agressive and not really using your head be cause thats not how it was intended?

come on of course you use your head when you play, you use it all the time. you have trained the way you play so much that you don't really need to think about the moves sure but you still did train them for like 100+ hours.

you keep on claiming that tactics in a game is a lame way of playing, just because your tactics are the same shit you used in crew.

rush , camp , and spawn kill.

it wont keep on working dude, you need to evolve your tactics make them better.
when facing a team like 3xa who actually uses tactics to a higher level then you do then you need to rethink your way of playing..


counter strike and cod, i never done a war there well not true ive done one in counter strike, but newbish. anyway
you cant sit here and say that teamwork tactics and such is lame.

Haha, cute Paul I've played way less wars than you, yes. I wouldn't say I'm inexperienced though, or that I don't know how to play your way. I can play tactical playing 3on3 too, it's just not what I like. You could just say I'm wrong, but then again you never really fought me in a cw. You are more than welcome of challenging though, I'd be up for kicking your ass anytime, I'll even play your way if you want me to, just for you Just don't pick misbegotten as second map and lose and then hide in the battlehammer room like our "trainingwar"

@Gorm, I only brought my vision on the game, I don't think that it was intended to stand still, but that's just what I think. You can have your opinion for yourself, that's your right. And I don't use the same tactics as in Crew. I don't really use any tactics, mostly jiazu doesn't have anything set up neither do I, so that's just regularly bs you are pulling out of your sleeve

And if I brought an arguement like you did, I could just say that you keep on claiming that Rune was based for tactical playing, and that you should just adapt to the situation and thereby be better. If everyone did that, I don't see how there could be any aggressive players? Unless they were really really good.

we got a lot of different players in rune we all got different style, we all got different opinions.
YOU claim that the only way to play rune to the fullest or truest way is by being agressive and not really using your head be cause thats not how it was intended?

I dont care if you play my way or not, you play what you like and that is aggresively I respect that but dont start claiming that aggresivity is the best way to play Rune as Gorm stated in his latest post above here.
Well what do you see as a tactical 3on3 gaming like me, I think you are still too foolish to think thats hiding and seeking (read some upper posts, thanks).
We fought each other in wars nor mixed up with people wars, and don't say that doesnt count, it counts as much as a clanwar since you faced me and you try evrything to defeat me, which you did 2 times out of the 10, quess who the other 8 wins got. Well you can set up your tough attitude again by saying I have to challange you and that you are able to play my way - first of all, learn to give me, Vendetta or Gorm giving some respect because you are not able to play like us. You basicly camp and spawnkill, I dont mind it, I find a solution to defeat it, as you should find a solution to defeat an experience fighter that knows evry corner, hit or route, you go for it cute Krantz!
The example you gave on that ''training war'' is just an example of having fun since that war was messed up all over for us.
You can say that you are not an inexperienced fighter, but ofcourse you would'nt say that - it would hurt you big tough guy ego otherwise.

Gorm wrote:we got a lot of different players in rune we all got different style, we all got different opinions.
YOU claim that the only way to play rune to the fullest or truest way is by being agressive and not really using your head be cause thats not how it was intended?

You keep misunderstanding, or not reading, so it's basicly a waste of time answering you. I said that I think the game was intended to be a hackandslash game, and that you have many options, one being defensive aswell. But I don't think they wanted it like this, and I think if you are aggressive that you use more of everything when playing. You can choose not to think that, but you certainly don't know how to discuss, if this is you trying. You must be hurt by my vision, you keep saying I claim this and that. I've not claimed anything whatsoever, again, this is a discussion, you need 2 sides for a discussion to come up. Now I brought an arguement saying that aggressive playstyle takes more to handle, and is the way I think they intended this game to be. Then I came up with some examples, so you could understand.. All you do, is trying to flame, and take the winning side. If you want to discuss then fine, but what do I get out of responding the same thing each time, because you didn't read?

"First of all, learn to give me, Vendetta and Gorm giving some respect because you are not able to play like us". Haha. You gotta be kidding me Spirit, this must be the part we're messing with each other.. How do you deserve any more respect than anyone else? This is a videogame, I'm already showing you a limited use of respect. Vendetta lost my respect long ago, and I don't see what I should respect. Gorm had mine in Crew, still does. But that's cause he's normal, and almost always friendly and cool. But if you're asking me to respect you because you played longer than most of us others, then you can shove it up yours :-* I will not do that. "You basicly camp and spawnkill" that's bs.. Let's take Hudson, there's a war going on, I mostly stay down low, 1 most people tend to be there, 2 you can spawnfrag pretty good there, 3 my teammates are mostly at axe. If you think I'm just doing that, then that's your opinion, but it's obviously wrong. I find it funny though, seeing how you had a stick up your ass everytime I said you played a bit lame, and you went: "facts, give facts".. If you don't like someone "whining"(Using your own term) then I guess you shouldn't do it yourself

Oh yeah, I could say that at every war aswell. Although, I've never lost and stay hidden in a small room 4 persons 15 minutes.. You can say whatever, I was there with everyone else, and we know what it was. And I'm more inexperienced than you, how can I not agree? What you are saying is true, you played 10 years, I did 3 or so. I'm not saying I'm better than you either, never did. YOU ARE BETTER THAN ME SPIRIT. And Gorm owns everyone when he's always charging you.. Is this what you want?

as I've written a couple of times now.
we all have different opinions.
You krantz say that you think that the best way to use rune is by being as aggressive as you can be.
however I don't really see you as being that aggressive anymore.
and ill explain what I mean..

lets use hudson as the best example of what I see you do.

I see you spawn, take the hammer camp"I use the word loosely" around the boxes, kill the spawns do nearly anything to show that your the best in that game.
you say your aggressive, however I don't actually see you as being aggressive.
I see you back hit a lot, more or less mainly only back hitting now a days?
thats fine if you wanna play like that thats what you can do, I am not gonna start saying its lame because its working for you.

now ill explain how I see myself.
I see myself as a very relaxed guy, I don't really try to win any public games anymore and thats shown in where my skill level is today. lower then it was in crew and jiazu combined , I admit I'm not as good as I use to, however I also play a different way then I did back then, because its not as consuming on me, ill explain.
when I played my best style the one I used almost all the time, I was only able to do it for a limited amount of time, because it was quite hard to focus for more then 20 min specially when i have to be in the face of everyone all the time.

So I adapted, took the moves I used and started to study how people move in rune, tho its in public games I've done it I've got a firm grasp on how the majority of players move.
there are players I have a hard time predicting , players like spirit.
if this is because he has the battle experience , to adapt to the fact I know what he will do, and then just change his way of playing as well. I don't know, but I guess it is.

However krantz when I face you, I almost all the time know what move you will do, the fact that I die is just because in a public game I don't really care what my score is.
I don't loosing if someone else gets better at that expense, hell I even let duelist more or less beat me to a pulp in the 1on1 we had, not that I don't think he would have if I had been more serious from the start. but who knows?
It gave him the confidence in himself that he seemingly needed.

however krantz as you said you respect me yet you say that people that adapt to others play style are weaker, and thats not respect, I adapt because it is more fun to know how people play in this game and see how they move and the final result would be that in my eyes I'm able to use the descending style without having to focus to much.

Ill give it to you krantz, you are good sure.
but you gotta understand just because you win public games, or a 1on1 doesn't mean you are one of the best players in rune.
as previously stated in one of my posts, I think noone at the moment is the BEST player in rune.
we got a lot of skilled, a lot of medium skilled, and then a lot of high skilled.

We are all different so we cant really judge who is what level sure people who rank higher in a public game would be seen as the better person, but is that really the case?
why showcase what you can do in a public game when you can surprise people?

as a small parting gift, it will go to everyone, the rant above was for krantz, and if it came across as provocative or flamish I'm sorry it wasn't meant to be like that.

we all got different opinions on how we think the game should be played, I as a mapper have to understand it quite well specially routers gamestyle, shit like that you get?
however as humans we have the right to have our own opinions, however as soon as we try to force upon others our opinion we start destroying the purpose behind having our own opinion. i mean what is the meaning of a opinion if you force it upon a other person when they don't believe it?

Krantz wrote:I'm not saying I'm better than you either, never did. YOU ARE BETTER THAN ME SPIRIT

'Nuff said.

Gorm wrote:as I've written a couple of times now.
we all have different opinions.
You krantz say that you think that the best way to use rune is by being as aggressive as you can be.
however I don't really see you as being that aggressive anymore.
and ill explain what I mean..

lets use hudson as the best example of what I see you do.

I see you spawn, take the hammer camp"I use the word loosely" around the boxes, kill the spawns do nearly anything to show that your the best in that game.
you say your aggressive, however I don't actually see you as being aggressive.
I see you back hit a lot, more or less mainly only back hitting now a days?
thats fine if you wanna play like that thats what you can do, I am not gonna start saying its lame because its working for you.

now ill explain how I see myself.
I see myself as a very relaxed guy, I don't really try to win any public games anymore and thats shown in where my skill level is today. lower then it was in crew and jiazu combined , I admit I'm not as good as I use to, however I also play a different way then I did back then, because its not as consuming on me, ill explain.
when I played my best style the one I used almost all the time, I was only able to do it for a limited amount of time, because it was quite hard to focus for more then 20 min specially when i have to be in the face of everyone all the time.

So I adapted, took the moves I used and started to study how people move in rune, tho its in public games I've done it I've got a firm grasp on how the majority of players move.
there are players I have a hard time predicting , players like spirit.
if this is because he has the battle experience , to adapt to the fact I know what he will do, and then just change his way of playing as well. I don't know, but I guess it is.

However krantz when I face you, I almost all the time know what move you will do, the fact that I die is just because in a public game I don't really care what my score is.
I don't loosing if someone else gets better at that expense, hell I even let duelist more or less beat me to a pulp in the 1on1 we had, not that I don't think he would have if I had been more serious from the start. but who knows?
It gave him the confidence in himself that he seemingly needed.

however krantz as you said you respect me yet you say that people that adapt to others play style are weaker, and thats not respect, I adapt because it is more fun to know how people play in this game and see how they move and the final result would be that in my eyes I'm able to use the descending style without having to focus to much.

Ill give it to you krantz, you are good sure.
but you gotta understand just because you win public games, or a 1on1 doesn't mean you are one of the best players in rune.
as previously stated in one of my posts, I think noone at the moment is the BEST player in rune.
we got a lot of skilled, a lot of medium skilled, and then a lot of high skilled.

We are all different so we cant really judge who is what level sure people who rank higher in a public game would be seen as the better person, but is that really the case?
why showcase what you can do in a public game when you can surprise people?

as a small parting gift, it will go to everyone, the rant above was for krantz, and if it came across as provocative or flamish I'm sorry it wasn't meant to be like that.

we all got different opinions on how we think the game should be played, I as a mapper have to understand it quite well specially routers gamestyle, shit like that you get?
however as humans we have the right to have our own opinions, however as soon as we try to force upon others our opinion we start destroying the purpose behind having our own opinion. i mean what is the meaning of a opinion if you force it upon a other person when they don't believe it?

Never forced me opinion on anyone, and I agreed/disagreed like you do in a discussion in this thread. Which most replyers didn't do. I don't think adapting to a situation makes you a weaker player, quite the opposite instead, never said anything else. I said adapting to the situation will automatically make you more defensive.
Do you think because I like to frag in a public game that I play my best there? Or that I don't let myself die for fun? You are basing my style from public games, yet you say you don't play serious in public games yourself, then how do you know that I'm playing serious? I don't mind you not seeing me as aggressive And just in case you didn't know, I don't do fucked up backhits 24/7 in a war, that's just my way of having fun. Anyways, I give up.. You won

Your the man Krantz

I don't do fucked up backhits 24/7 in a war

umm what?
yes i fuck up back hits so what I don't really like back hits anyway? the fact that i still kill you with these fucked up back hits then is funny
but the fact you feel you need to attack me in that manner just shows you cant discuss this. yes you did lose

I''m not going to mix me into you both having your discussion - I gave my point of view before but besides that, backhits are good, but not using them only, it makes you predictable - mixing up with spins, backhits, random hits and all that stuff combined, is not a bad style, you will be un-predictable for your opponent and makes it easier to take him down honestly